This page will be a place to accumulate comments having to do with minimizing dirty electricity issues that are making some people sick. Generally this can be done by plugging in Stetzer filters in many outlets or by installing a large “suppressor” filter next to the main circuit breaker panel.
Submitted by Xy on 2015/02/02 at 2:12 am:
We intend to go off grid and are already part way there now. Teenage geeks are hacking the grid and major prolonged black out potential is why, not just the smart meter, the big picture. Better to not be caught off guard if possible.
Meanwhile we also considered it a bargain to suppress the frequencies. We found the right unit, industrial grade, and had a savvy electrician install it as the means to protect and extend the life of all our non chipped safe appliances from smart grid over voltages, pulses, surges, dirty electricity, all of it. I know it works because ti changed everything for me, from being physically so affected to fully able to function. Sure, we had to do a great deal of research before we found the right one that had been designed with the smart grid and meter frequencies in mind.
Traditional suppression units have fixed clamp suppression, which is a set voltage above and below the sine wave, which could be anywhere from 150 to 250 volts, wherever they put the limits. This in essence means that with a traditional unit a transient has to exceed those limits, before it gets “clipped”. And that means that every transient that is smaller goes right through unrestricted and travels throughout the whole building. The one we finally found includes a cutting edge technology, a sine wave tracking feature which closely monitors the voltage and frequency to very minute amounts above and below each and every sine wave. That also means that shortening the wires for the final lead length into the service panel is critical.
We used a dedicated double pole breaker for the unit we had installed, though 2 single 115v pole breakers side by side works just as well, either/or, since this item is internally fused on each leg and offers a first rate mode of protection as it monitors every sine wave and adjusts it as needed.
As the transients get suppressed by the MOV’s, the excess voltage or current gets converted to heat within the device and discharged thru to ground. That’s why it is also SO important to have a good ground. Sometimes electricians just assume that grounds are all good, but in reality, they cause a lot of grief to people if they are not properly done, which is often the case.
How most any ordinary suppressor works internally is that they turn from a high impedance device into a low impedance device as soon as they sense a rise in voltage or frequency.
With this particular unit this rise is picked up by the nano second, and is diverted thru the MOV’s, which in turn heat up internally from the excess energy.
Just about all the suppressors on the market do not have the ways and means of controlling this potentially overheating factor, whereas this one incorporates thermal fusing between all modes of the circuits, line to line, line to neutral, line to ground, and neutral to ground. It multi layers the MOV’s so that many are operating in the same circuit while dealing with any rise in energy.
As the MOV heats up internally, it discharges the energy internally through the ground, while this device thermally encapsulates the whole process, with a mesh and a compound which seals off the circuitry, so the unit is able to function with no heat generated.
A conventional suppressor is not good enough for the smart grid. It’s the sine wave tracking circuitry that makes this one more than simply a suppressor, All the overheating prevention safety is built in. This one had the lowest let thru voltage of any other one we compared this one to.
Here is the best part, No surge, no pulses, no harm, no over billing, and no data extraction.
Reply by Vigilant Dave on 2/2/15 at 3:35 pm:
Xy, Thank you for your enlightening discussion of suppressor technology. An explanation of “MOV’S” abbreviation would be useful. I understand this technology may be able to eliminate all or most of the “dirty electricity that would otherwise circulate through the wiring in a home or business. But you do not address the problem with the radio frequency (RF) transmissions that travel directly through the air, making many sick and allowing for the data transmission to the utility. In your summation you make a claim of “no data extraction”. That calls for some explanation I think, as the suppressor is connected to the building wiring and NOT to the circuitry within the meter that generates the harmful RF and allows for the data transmission. Did you also take the “non-transmitting meter” and pay the opt-out fees? And could you give us all some information as to what brand of suppressor you used, what it cost and where our interested readers can buy it?
The websites alone are probably not enough of a source for detailed technical information. I did a lot of follow up in depth research.
I was also drawn to the no questions asked full lifetime warranty aspect.
It seems that due to my in depth interrogation about every aspect of this unique suppressor, apparently this inspired the sales rep to plan and create a question and answer page for the Canadian website. Not sure if it is posted yet or not.
I also requested of him all tech specs, all installation and other instructions in pdf format, plus I sought out detailed comparison tests to other brands, as well as asking a zillion questions.
Frankly, I think the rep was remarkably patient and his follow up was bar none, He remote helped with every step, intuitively diagnosing what was wrong with the initial panel installation set up, the grounding question, even after the sinetamer was installed. We arranged for it yet had had no idea how badly the previous electrical work of installing the generator sub panel had been done.
In fact when I described my existing ear whistling it was the sinetamer rep who was the one that first suspected there was a preexisting incorrect ground situation.
Sure enough, once we got a savvy inspector and electrician in, indeed there was a serious and potentially fatal flaw in the way the panel had been installed.
We had previously had this generator sub panel with a transfer switch built into it, for the first steps for getting ready to go off grid. The panel was installed by what turned out to be an incompetent electrician who later lost his business – But who knew any of that then?
He supposedly knew all about off grid applications, he came recommended by a solar company, but nevertheless he did it all wrong. No inspector ever came to check out his work, not unusual, but without a journeyman ticket how is a homeowner supposed to know right from wrong regarding safe installation? This is what I mean by “savvy”.
You cannot be too careful.
Next, we hired a second electrician much later, solely to install the suppressor, a quick job. Like the first one, he let his assistant do the work. Like the first one he acted just like he knew what he was doing.
This second electrician had also gained a reputation for being smart meter aware and frequency cognizant. So much for reputation, he was just capitalizing on our ignorance. Guess what? Despite taking the face off the panel leaving the serious error in plan view, he TOO failed to notice that the wiring error caused by the previous electrician who had literally crossed two essential wires in the existing generator sub panel that we had installed years earlier (as the first of emergency outage steps we were taking toward eventually going off grid).
Two strikes, two dogmatic closed minded and incompetent electricians, were we cursed? what the heck? Or is this about how many electricians cause problems? Certainly WE experienced two who failed to do things correctly or spot serious safety breaches.
So then we had to hire a senior electrical inspector who spotted the original wiring error and the non grounded panel, in seconds. He also double checked the bonding to the water system, a separate matter. he knew EXACTLY what to look for. How do I know? I used my new radiation monitor and gauss meter, to test the before and after as well as taking pictures before and after
Then a worthwhile safety oriented non dogmatic electrician corrected the potentially fatal wiring error.
The first electrician who installed the sub panel had cross switched the ground and neutral wire locations.
As mentioned, the only thing warning me that something was terribly wrong was my ears began whistling and ringing like crazy but I had no idea that this error was why since there can be so many reasons why ear whistling happens. Instead we covered the panel and both sides of the wall with Reflectix insulation which helped a fair bit.
We were told by the inspector, that had we EVER hooked up to the generator, chances are it would have caught fire.
By contrast, the sales rep for sinetamer was excellent. He managed long distance to diagnose this problem from phone calls and back and forth e-mails with photographic attachments, and did so far better then either electrician had done.
Later, we had a third savvy electrician fix what not one incompetent but two incompetent NON savvy electricians failed to do correctly neither notice or catch the error, upside down backwards wiring.
Here is the e-mail for the sales rep who was so helpful for us.