Suppressing ‘Dirty Electricity’

This page will be a place to accumulate comments having to do with minimizing dirty electricity issues that are making some people sick. Generally this can be done by plugging in Stetzer filters in many outlets or by installing a large “suppressor” filter next to the main circuit breaker panel.

Submitted by Xy on 2015/02/02 at 2:12 am:
We intend to go off grid and are already part way there now. Teenage geeks are hacking the grid and major prolonged black out potential is why, not just the smart meter, the big picture. Better to not be caught off guard if possible.
Meanwhile we also considered it a bargain to suppress the frequencies. We found the right unit, industrial grade, and had a savvy electrician install it as the means to protect and extend the life of all our non chipped safe appliances from smart grid over voltages, pulses, surges, dirty electricity, all of it. I know it works because ti changed everything for me, from being physically so affected to fully able to function. Sure, we had to do a great deal of research before we found the right one that had been designed with the smart grid and meter frequencies in mind.
Traditional suppression units have fixed clamp suppression, which is a set voltage above and below the sine wave, which could be anywhere from 150 to 250 volts, wherever they put the limits. This in essence means that with a traditional unit a transient has to exceed those limits, before it gets “clipped”. And that means that every transient that is smaller goes right through unrestricted and travels throughout the whole building. The one we finally found includes a cutting edge technology, a sine wave tracking feature which closely monitors the voltage and frequency to very minute amounts above and below each and every sine wave. That also means that shortening the wires for the final lead length into the service panel is critical.
We used a dedicated double pole breaker for the unit we had installed, though 2 single 115v pole breakers side by side works just as well, either/or, since this item is internally fused on each leg and offers a first rate mode of protection as it monitors every sine wave and adjusts it as needed.
As the transients get suppressed by the MOV’s, the excess voltage or current gets converted to heat within the device and discharged thru to ground. That’s why it is also SO important to have a good ground. Sometimes electricians just assume that grounds are all good, but in reality, they cause a lot of grief to people if they are not properly done, which is often the case.
How most any ordinary suppressor works internally is that they turn from a high impedance device into a low impedance device as soon as they sense a rise in voltage or frequency.
With this particular unit this rise is picked up by the nano second, and is diverted thru the MOV’s, which in turn heat up internally from the excess energy.
Just about all the suppressors on the market do not have the ways and means of controlling this potentially overheating factor, whereas this one incorporates thermal fusing between all modes of the circuits, line to line, line to neutral, line to ground, and neutral to ground. It multi layers the MOV’s so that many are operating in the same circuit while dealing with any rise in energy.
As the MOV heats up internally, it discharges the energy internally through the ground, while this device thermally encapsulates the whole process, with a mesh and a compound which seals off the circuitry, so the unit is able to function with no heat generated.
A conventional suppressor is not good enough for the smart grid. It’s the sine wave tracking circuitry that makes this one more than simply a suppressor, All the overheating prevention safety is built in. This one had the lowest let thru voltage of any other one we compared this one to.
Here is the best part, No surge, no pulses, no harm, no over billing, and no data extraction.

 Reply by Vigilant Dave on 2/2/15 at 3:35 pm: 
Xy, Thank you for your enlightening discussion of suppressor technology. An explanation of “MOV’S” abbreviation would be useful. I understand this technology may be able to eliminate all or most of the “dirty electricity that would otherwise circulate through the wiring in a home or business. But you do not address the problem with the radio frequency (RF) transmissions that travel directly through the air, making many sick and allowing for the data transmission to the utility. In your summation you make a claim of “no data extraction”. That calls for some explanation I think, as the suppressor is connected to the building wiring and NOT to the circuitry within the meter that generates the harmful RF and allows for the data transmission. Did you also take the “non-transmitting meter” and pay the opt-out fees? And could you give us all some information as to what brand of suppressor you used, what it cost and where our interested readers can buy it?

Submitted by Mz on Feb 2, 2015 at 3:58 pm:
Xy, Would you mind posting a link to the suppressor you mention? And the savvy electrician’s contact info?

Submitted by Xy on 2015/02/03 at 1:59 am | In reply to Mz:
Links for the sine tracking suppressor:
Canada:  CratusCanada.com   USA:  sinetamer.com

The websites alone are probably not enough of a source for detailed technical information. I did a lot of follow up in depth research.
I was also drawn to the no questions asked full lifetime warranty aspect.
It seems that due to my in depth interrogation about every aspect of this unique suppressor, apparently this inspired the sales rep to plan and create a question and answer page for the Canadian website. Not sure if it is posted yet or not.
I also requested of him all tech specs, all installation and other instructions in pdf format, plus I sought out detailed comparison tests to other brands, as well as asking a zillion questions.
Frankly, I think the rep was remarkably patient and his follow up was bar none, He remote helped with every step, intuitively diagnosing what was wrong with the initial panel installation set up, the grounding question, even after the sinetamer was installed. We arranged for it yet had had no idea how badly the previous electrical work of installing the generator sub panel had been done.
In fact when I described my existing ear whistling it was the sinetamer rep who was the one that first suspected there was a preexisting incorrect ground situation.
Sure enough, once we got a savvy inspector and electrician in, indeed there was a serious and potentially fatal flaw in the way the panel had been installed.
We had previously had this generator sub panel with a transfer switch built into it, for the first steps for getting ready to go off grid. The panel was installed by what turned out to be an incompetent electrician who later lost his business – But who knew any of that then?
He supposedly knew all about off grid applications, he came recommended by a solar company, but nevertheless he did it all wrong. No inspector ever came to check out his work, not unusual, but without a journeyman ticket how is a homeowner supposed to know right from wrong regarding safe installation? This is what I mean by “savvy”.
You cannot be too careful.
Next, we hired a second electrician much later, solely to install the suppressor, a quick job. Like the first one, he let his assistant do the work. Like the first one he acted just like he knew what he was doing.
This second electrician had also gained a reputation for being smart meter aware and frequency cognizant. So much for reputation, he was just capitalizing on our ignorance. Guess what? Despite taking the face off the panel leaving the serious error in plan view, he TOO failed to notice that the wiring error caused by the previous electrician who had literally crossed two essential wires in the existing generator sub panel that we had installed years earlier (as the first of emergency outage steps we were taking toward eventually going off grid).
Two strikes, two dogmatic closed minded and incompetent electricians, were we cursed? what the heck? Or is this about how many electricians cause problems? Certainly WE experienced two who failed to do things correctly or spot serious safety breaches.
So then we had to hire a senior electrical inspector who spotted the original wiring error and the non grounded panel, in seconds. He also double checked the bonding to the water system, a separate matter. he knew EXACTLY what to look for. How do I know? I used my new radiation monitor and gauss meter, to test the before and after as well as taking pictures before and after
Then a worthwhile safety oriented non dogmatic electrician corrected the potentially fatal wiring error.
The first electrician who installed the sub panel had cross switched the ground and neutral wire locations.
As mentioned, the only thing warning me that something was terribly wrong was my ears began whistling and ringing like crazy but I had no idea that this error was why since there can be so many reasons why ear whistling happens. Instead we covered the panel and both sides of the wall with Reflectix insulation which helped a fair bit.
We were told by the inspector, that had we EVER hooked up to the generator, chances are it would have caught fire.
By contrast, the sales rep for sinetamer was excellent. He managed long distance to diagnose this problem from phone calls and back and forth e-mails with photographic attachments, and did so far better then either electrician had done.
Later, we had a third savvy electrician fix what not one incompetent but two incompetent NON savvy electricians failed to do correctly neither notice or catch the error, upside down backwards wiring.
Here is the e-mail for the sales rep who was so helpful for us.
Terry

 

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5 thoughts on “Suppressing ‘Dirty Electricity’

  1. Thank you kind lady for all the accurate information you posted. I am the sales person from Cratus that she has mentioned in regard to Sinetamer suppressors and I have no problem answering any questions whether you are from the US or Canada. If you would like to contact me, you can do so thru our website at CratusCanada.com Thank you,
    Terry

  2. For Vigilant Dave

    An MOV is a Metal Oxide Varistor. Most suppressors today utilize these items as their key component in suppressing transients. Compared to plain MOV’s versus the one’s in this unit, the main differences are the individually thermally fused MOV’s, component level thermal fusing between each mode, and an encapsulation process which enables more components to fit into a smaller box, multilayers them, and creates a non heat environment for the life of the suppressor. This is vitally important as many a fire has happened from lesser models, including ones which begin at power bar surge suppressors and cheap appliance filters.

    This unit is an industrial grade unit. It’s meant to be mounted as close to the buss bar on power panels as possible, in order to gain the full effect of trapping transients.
    The sine wave tracking is actually called Frequency Attenuation Circuitry, whereas the sine wave tracking term is actually a result of this process. This FAC circuitry is one key to this suppressor, but only because it is also includes other patented components which offer protection from clamping and eliminating a wide range of transients, everything from transmission line over voltages to major strikes such as lightning, right down to the more common everyday 100 MHz ring wave.

    This was the only manufacturer of suppressors I came across which freely offers test data for all IEEE standards. The most common standard is a 6KV and 3KA combination wave form which everyone tests for. However, this manufacturer includes the 100Mhz results because it is a much smaller waveform, yet it is one that if left unaddressed devastates today’s electronic infrastructure. Perhaps they include these findings because they have that unique Frequency Attenuation Circuitry.
    As for RFI/EMI filtration, these units come standard with 30 dB Max protection from 1 kHz to 10 MHz. All other suppressors I investigated only go to 50 dB. RFI/EMI filtration differs from transients The transients are in the KHz frequency range, whereas the RFI/EMI are in the MHZ range. Some companies do actually offer sine wave tracking for RFI/EMI frequencies, but offer absolutely nothing to do with trapping and removing transients from sine waves.

    These suppressors carry no juice. If there is more than one circuit box, this device is almost always hooked into the closest service panel/circuit box to the source of power, close to the meter, usually within a foot or two on average.
    A building biologist ascertained that this suppressor virtually eliminates the transients from bouncing around my home circuits, therefore also eliminating them from travelling back to the meter, so it automatically follows that less pulse and surge based data is received back at the meter, thereby foiling frequency graphing while levelling out the spikes and pulses that represent usage data, reactive power measurement, surge measurement that is grabbed as if it was “usage”, all of which augment the costs of energy while not actually being a reflection of actual usage

    This use of the word “data” in this context does not include wireless data emitted from smart appliance based data streams. Any smart meter on any home is fully able to siphon off data issuing wirelessly from any smart grid compliant appliance’s zigbee chip in any other home, not just the one it happens to be on. Since any smart meter can read chipped appliances in a neighbour’s home, or any home in range other than the one where it’s located, it is crucial to avoid owning, or to try to shield or disable such wireless RFID or Zigbee chipped or zigbee compliant appliances.

    The transients which are induced and enabled by a smart meter, as well as what has now become common, over voltages issuing from the smart grid, even when there is NO smart meter on the home, are also trapped and suppressed at the panel by this suppressor and do not enter into the home.
    This is actually a bonus feature because up until now the main concern for purchasers of this product has been regarding its effectiveness in protecting electrical and electronic infrastructure within businesses. Industry has been using this particular suppressor device for years.

    Sine tamer has only relatively recently entered the residential market. The device already has a longstanding reputation. Thus I sought out its relevance for neutralizing smart grid fall out as well as radio and cell tower infiltration into the home.
    Residual EMI/RFI waves travelling thru air waves are difficult to 100% neutralize. All I can say is that this device radically cleaned up my home wiring and restored my sleep and nerves. For those who seek a zero frequency environment, other ways and means would also have to be looked at. This device deals with what is travelling within your circuits. However, those with greater expertise, such as a thermographic frequency specialist, assure me that in fact wireless frequencies from the grid can and do seek and find the path of least resistance, that they readily couple to energized wiring and follow it, be it along transmission lines or in the home where these frequencies will travel all round the whole building repeatedly.
    Incorrectly wired homes with wires not correctly twisted to cancel out fields in the walls can and do emit frequency fields as well. Conversely, wireless in the two main frequency ranges for smart meters have a natural affinity with water and metal. Since these mediums serve as the best conduits on which to travel around the building that is what the vast majority of these frequencies do.
    This is not to say that all wireless frequencies will couple solely or fully to all wiring conduits but a lot of it actually does so, which explains its innate attraction to transmission lines, onto which microwaves also readily piggy back.
    An all or nothing quick fix to the microwave blanketing we all face now is hard come by. Nothing will address absolutely everything that passes thru wiring or is generated by it. Many who refuse smart meters continue to use all sorts of other dangerous wireless in their homes, and somehow manage to view the smart meter as unique yet unrelated to the big picture of their failure to practice safe tech.
    All that is suggested here is that this particular suppressor probably accomplishes far more that any other product that was studied and researched by this writer.

    • Xy, Thank you very much for this technical explanation. Many of our readers will be interested in that. When I visited the SineTamer website in your earlier comment they seem to be talking only about arresting lightning or surges. I thought you were saying this unit would cure the dirty electricity (poor power quality) issue also. Can you clarify that point?

      • I totally agree that questions about dirty electricity need to be pursued by those who need to learn more. I am a purchaser, not a rep.
        You might want to be aware that while the design neutralizes surges and pulses, interest in the DE aspect is not typically what countless businesses that purchase these suppressors prioritize. Their goal is pretty basic. Clean up the transients and the total harmonic distortion from the grid to save money on operating and replacement costs.
        I have offered my take on the dirty electricity aspect in depth. I think scepticism is a healthy approach to take. I suggest that you contact the company directly. That’s what worked well for me.
        The rep I dealt with would attest that I tend to be one tough cookie when it comes to actually buying anything. I think it took me many many months. I refuse to make any decision based on fear, pat assurances or hearsay. The only error I did make was to assume that electricians who pretend to know all about emfs would be competent. It just ain’t so, as I learned the hard way. That was the only expensive part, to get the electrical work done wrong and then corrected, after three tries, and two dogmatic idiots.
        As for the product itself, as I said, I asked the company rep many questions. I listened closely so that I could ask even more in depth questions, based on the many answers I was initially given. Considering that they normally deal with businesses who already “get” it, I was treated very well. It certainly was the rep’s candour and forthrightness that helped me to understand the capabilities and limits of this product. I encourage you to do the same. It’s never a good idea to just take anyone else’s word for it when it comes to making any important consumer purchase, especially concerning one’s home and health. It is up to each person to make their own serious final decisions.
        I suggest you go to the source. Then check out consumer reports, not just anecdotal stuff. Ask them for a Q & A, or an FAQ, or both, this saves time.
        I took some comfort in the fact that this is not a fly-by-night company. They have an established history. I researched complaints about them and found nothing concerning. They are a longstanding established industry used for many years by plenty of commercial businesses, industries that look for savings, results, as the bottom line,and which are not about to tolerate any misrepresentation of a product’s abilities.
        Those I dealt with were more than happy and willing to provide everything I asked about. So ask them to tell you what you may need to know abut this item. I checked them out in great depth, I did not just take their word for any of this.
        There is already enough smart grid based apprehension and the hype that goes with it, not to mention a proliferating smart meter fear based growth sector, most of it woo woo junk based. In fact, the resulting opportunistic sell off of fake claims for fake anti emf junk is a huge scandal.
        For instance Stetzer.
        For a start, the number of Stetzer filters and a Stetzer meter required for an average household add up to typically about twice the price of an industrial grade sine tamer suppressor
        Since those who operate this website might have perhaps endorsed a product such as Stetzer filters, somewhere on this site, you might want to check out the follow up of what has happened in this area, the hazards, fire issues which has resulted from use of Stetzer filters, the resulting damage and chemical harm to users. Be sure to also check out the coverage of the SLAPP suit brought by David Stetzer against the victims of a Stetzer filter fire and the resulting chemicals, presumably done in an attempt to try to silence those who spoke up about the harm they suffered from these made in China purported emf filters. Be sure to research how the SLAPP suit in turn was tossed out.
        I assure you, all of it makes for very informative reading.

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