This page was created as a place for arguments that our court system, as presently organized, cannot or will not decide cases in accordance with the U.S. Constitution, statutes and case law, or with the Michigan State Constitution, statutes and case law. We do not agree with these arguments but are willing to provide this forum for their airing. Most of these arguments fall into the following categories:
1) The United States government and the Michigan government are not true governments at all, but simply corporations.
2) The courts make decisions based only on the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC).
3) An individual will lose every time unless he brings a lawsuit under UCC.
4) The only remedies for our defective governments and defective courts are common law grand juries or resort to international tribunals.
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I received an email today from a friend in Seattle, Washington, that in part states:
“FYI, today/tomorrow I am going to send you and other activists I know in Michigan also dealing with the “smart” utility meters issue a copy of an executive order signed by the governor of the corporate State of Michigan on the St. Patrick’s Day weekend. He basically restructured the state corporate government ten days after he had been served with a Notice of Liability from our NOL pilot project group in Detroit, creating a new Michigan Agency for Energy (MAE) which placed under — wait for it — the Michigan State Police! Our lead sovereignty law consultant both wrote differing analyses of what this means to you in Michigan, and all of you need to know about this to judge for yourselves and take action accordingly!
More soon!”
Here is her speaking, along with Sue Rhoades, on Seattle Public Television about the International Tribunal Court of Justice, which will be addressing Smart Meters some time in the future. ITNJ’s first court tribunal starts June 15. Note: there is first a short news journalist, then a pause, then Sue and Rebecca begin.
I would suggest you quit asking and begging the “authorities” or the “leadership” do do the right thing. That method is only giving away your own power. Giving away our own personal power, giving that power to the so-called “experts” to make our decisions for us, is what got us into this place in the first place.
Instead show them how they have harmed you and how much money and time in prison these acts could cost them. Them, being the Corporate CEOs, the government officials, and everyone involved in this nonsense down to the people posing as protectors of the people, but are really working for the utility companies.
We do not want to harm them, but what can we do if they so blatantly are harming us.
Also, is is not interesting that it is a Crime Against Humanity to put information out to the public that is not true, which encourages the public to make a decision on that false information. I include here their bought and paid for science studies which are in reality Cook the Books Science going back to the 1970s that I know of. Isn’t that what the utility companies have been doing regarding $Smart Meters in their glowing brochures? And that is just one of the Crimes Against Humanity committed regarding Smart Meters.
Mike Submitted on 2015/05/20 at 7:31 am | In reply to Vigilant Dave.
DAVE- I couldn’t find a “contact ” link so feel free to unpost this but check out this link http://freedom-school.com/the-ucc-connection.html it explains a lot , as you really need to start at the beginning , and understand the federal reserve money and its privileges (the privilege of postponing debt instead of paying it) . today there is NO SUCH THING as private property . literally it is ALL collateral on our national debt (under HJR192) and until it has been “paid for” is under public policy.
This means that – no matter what you feel– you need a “permit ” to use the states collateral. buy a -new- car you do not get the ownership papers from the factory. they go directly to the state , and registered as collateral, and you are issued a title which gives you permission to use it (with other restrictions such as registration plates , INSURANCE etc). if you buy the same car —and pay for it with substance— ie gold backed money, then and only then is it private property. if you buy land , and use federal reserve notes to “postpone” the debt, it is a government privilege to do that. you no longer get a -land patent, which gives you EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS- TO IT, but rather you get a -warranty deed- which only gives you the “privilege” of paying taxes and the state holds ownership and everything you do on it is -by permit only-. in order to realize the difference between public policy and commercial law (which literally covers everything today) you need to start at the beginning.
susan: Most lawyers don’t even understand that there are these “different laws” under contract . Most people (or lawyers etc) do not realize there are 2 Michigans (state of Michigan and Michigan state one being under Constitutional law and one of which is only on paper (corporate) and -literally- has no definable borders – so how can they try you where they cant even tell you where you are) . As an example – under State of Michigan public policy , it is a “privilege to drive your car and our need a “license” . If you live in Michigan State (as a freeman iunder the Constitution) you have the -right to drive without license under your Constitutional right to travel.
People think you are talking foolishness when you tell them. I have fought on this principle 20 yrs back when the township didn’t want my house in their township because I didn’t get permits (a permit is literally permission to break the law or do something that would be breaking the law without this specific permission) . I am still here and can attest to the fact that this type of law exists.
It is tuff to make people realize that when any lawyer cant even help you because -they- are a numbered official of the court and if they go against their master they will lose their “permission ” to “play the game” . People need to learn true law . They don’t realize that the federal reserve money they use to postpone their debts (yes fed reserve notes do not pay for anything according to HJR192) is the reason we are losing our country or that every president since FDR has had to sign a new executive order immediately upon taking office to negate the -Constitutional- gold clause and keep US on the -unconstitutional- federal reserve money .
This money is the very reason we no longer control our courts as EVERYTHING is literally under commerce laws as it is all run through commercial court and not under true law . Our founding fathers warned against this and the evils of not using just weights and measures (as the Lord commands) —- Thomas Jefferson 1802 “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
Dave- there is validity to what this woman is talking about. Until you educate yourself a bit on it , it will sound like foolishness because we are all so used to being out from under real law so long , it no longer “clicks” with us. Under Constitutional law you are truly free to live your life and no one can control you without a contract-which you agree to–. Under statutory law -they- have the control and you ask permission (permits) for everything .
I may be behind the game -just a bit- as I have not looked at this for some 15 yrs and the patriot movement has been trying gain ground under contract law for yrs. Susan is probably well versed in the latest “updates”. It is sounds like craziness but most judges will need to be educated as most don’t even understand the angle you are coming from — or at least they play stupid. If the courtroom you are in has an “American flag ” in it with a gold fringe on it — LITERALLY you are in a foreign land. Every court you go to has a gold fringe -federal- flag. I can attest to the fact that unless you use the correct court (venue) for the type of remedy you are asking, you will get nowhere. —MY TWO CENTS— MIKE
No, I don’t see the problem with what I have said.
1. This uses contract law, the same law that corporations use, Unified Commercial Code. The United States is a corporation, their corporation papers can be found in the City of London. Since it is a corporation and not a government, it has no mandate to serve the people. What you see is an illusion. To enforce this contract, one would take it into the proper court that handles contract law.
2. There are courts that handle equity, they are difficult to find, these are not the pseudo-courts that people are hauled into. The pseudo courts.are not formed to give you justice or remedy.
3. There are common law grand juries operated by the people forming now, lawfully just as provided for by law. Grand juries were never lawfully to be operated by the so-called judicial system. Always be the people, and a jury of one’s peers. Which means the jury must be made up of people who personally know the defendant.
4. There is now forming international tribunals, at least two of them, and recently I have been informed of many more in many countries. These tribunals will be similar to the Nuremberg Tribunals. Everything having to do with Smart Meters is a violation of International Law. These are Crimes Against Humanity.
One of these International Tribunals is being formed by a group of attorneys, who have a law school teaching international law only. They felt the violations against humanity right now were so badly being violated that they needed to form there tribunal right away.
5. These pseudo courts do not follow the Constitution, and they say so. even Federal judges so this in their courtrooms. They will not even tell you which jurisdiction you are being tried under. If you do not know the jurisdiction, the set of laws you are being tried under, how can one defend themselves.
6. These pseudo courts, are a money-making racket. There is a bond placed on people who deal with the courts. The bond is traded in securities and then becomes worth many times it’s original cost. That goes into the judges pocket and/or retirement fund. We can and have traced these securities. The man speaking in the video, who I do not personally know, knows all about what I am telling you.
7. These pseudo courts are based upon extortion. If one gets a simple traffic ticket. If you go into court to fight the ticket, the price goes up, court costs are added, many hundreds of dollars, and if you don’t like it the judge always has his armed henchmen to threaten to kidnap you and often beat the living hell out of you. Yes this has happened, and happened often.
8. The judge, the prosecutor, your own attorney are often working together. We have documented proof of this going on – and on a regular basis. They often decide ahead of time, what is going to happen before a trial begins.
9. There is so much more to know to get informed about these things. I’m sure I left pertinent information out. In the next few years you will see heads roll, not physically I hope.
Also, I want you to know that this video and the documents are endorsed by Take Back Your Power.
Susan, Do you not see the contradiction in what you are saying? You advise people to stay out of the courts because “The courts … are corrupt”. Of what use then is “contract law”? Contract law can only be enforced through the courts. The video you link tells people to write letters to make utility officials and others individually liable for big money damages. Of what use is it to “make people liable” when that liability can only be enforced through the courts? Are otherwise corrupt courts suddenly going to become dispensers of justice because you wrote somebody a letter or sent them an affidavit? Let’s get real here!
There are problems with our court system to be sure. And there are some corrupt judges. But there are some honest ones too. Even the best ones will rule against us if we have not presented enough admissible evidence or have not made correct legal arguments. And the best ones are often constrained to rule against us because of bad laws on the books or because the legislature has delegated almost unlimited power to an administrative agency that has become corrupt over the years. A court must rule according to the laws and that is not always the same thing as dispensing justice.
“Take Back Your Power” is an excellent movie that dramatizes the harm that smart meters are doing. Josh del Sol, the producer of this film deserves all our thanks for the magnificent job he did with this film. But we think the legal advice and letter writing and affidavits he is promoting make no sense whatever. At best this process may make some people “feel good” that they have done something, and at worst participation in this process may hurt the credibility of the participants should they wish to bring a court case later or participate in a joint legal action against a utility brought by a group of similarly aggrieved utility customers.
We fight on multiple fronts now: public opinion, the courts and now with our new legislative push for the “Utility Meter Freedom of Choice Amendment” discussed elsewhere on this site. We must do all of these things if we are to find non-violent redress for our grievances.
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Stay out of the courts. The courts are working for the corporations, are based upon extortion, and are corrupt. You have no voice there. You will get no remedy there. It is not a real court.
Use contract law. See this video and corresponding documents linked below. I followed a similar process. A smart meter was never installed at my home. But all of my neighbors have one.
“http://takebackyourpower.net/news/2014/05/16/template-notice-demand-removal-2014/”
On January 5, 2016, I filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, Consumer Protection Division.
I will send this organization the complaint if anyone would like to read it; then someone from this organization can post it for other consumers to read.
In essence, the billing rules, are unconstitutional. They denied customers their fundamental rights of “procedural” due process of law under the state and federal constitutions.
The constitutions are applicable to government. Consumer Energy, is a state actor, thus would be required to follow the state and federal constitutions.
Even if the courts found that consumer energy was not a state actor, the billing rules don’t provide the fundamental “procedural” due process of law, thus, the rules are avoidable.
Moreover, the rules are so vague, that on this basis, they are unconstitutional.
I wrote the Federal Trade Commission since CE did not follow the rules, the MPSC and CE were complicit in getting rid of my billing disputes, and as a result, CE keep sending me notices that credit action would be taken.
Consumer Energy started changing the contract, using standards contrary to contract law. They wanted me to pay almost $600 even though this was an overcharged of about $500. Their meter was broke and they expected me to pay for it.
I wanted my R 460.154 hearing. I learned that the hearing officer is a notary public by definition of R 460.12 (2)(v). I thought I would be getting a legal decision. It was no such thing. The hearing rule was wrapped up in legal language, which deceived me in believing that this hearing would be resolved on law.
If these billing disputes were resolved in a court of law, CE would have to file the complaint, and prove to a court judge why the customer owes it before CE or any other utility company can shut-off one’s electricity.
The rules are one-sided and favor the utility companies, when in a court of law, there is a court judge who is impartial and hears both parties.
The MPSC is not a court of law. It’s an agency that has been given limited powers, unlike the court system that can provide an equity remedy, for example.
At this time, I find that neither CE, R 460.154, (hearing between CE and the customer), is legal, and do not find in the rules that the MPSC has any legal authority to resolve billing disputes.
The rules have to be challenge on constitutional grounds though the 5th and 14th Amendments to the US Constitution.
I filed with the Trade Commission since I saw no way for the Michigan customers to get their legal rights enforced. It’s too political to get anything done though the state. One of the chairperson at the MPSC is a former Consumer Energy CEO, then turned lobbyists, and now a chairperson at the MPSC. This chairperson was picked by Snyder, with the consent of the Senate which is Republican.
I would think that the Attorney General would represent the people on this issue. He hasn’t and the question is, why haven’t you done so.
The complaint states that Consumer Energy attempted to take money that it was not entitled to when it engaged in bill manipulations, changed the customers’ contract rights, made false legal statements to the customer and the BBB, and engaged in unauthorized activities, omissions, and made ongoing threats to by pass the customer’s rights to a hearing.
I also included the comments pursuant to the MPSC hearing comments that I downloaded from this cite.
If someone is willing to post the complaint and its supporting documents, and rules, etc. please contact me at trsundquist@yahoo.com. I am no good at uploading documents though the computer, so I can mail a copy to someone who has the expertise in this area.
Theresa Sundquist